Student Licence now paid?!?

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  • 7 days ago, I began teaching Enscape to my new group of students for the semester (for the 4th straight year). Always a fun class when teaching them the wonders of Enscape + Revit, the plug and play tool anyone can use.

    At the end of class, a student asked if there was a way to access a free version? This was the moment I learnt students are now being asked to pay for a student license. Holy crap. Since when?

    I missed the memo, I don't know when this started, but you are now asking for US$16.83 a month, and to add insult to injury, only an option to pay annually (as far as I can tell in Australia). So really, they are being asked to pay US$201.96 for a semesters usage. That's insane.

    I would love to know why this decision was made (aside from the obvious). Right at the exact moment Twinmotion walks in on the scene connected to Revit 2023, you make Enscape less accessible for the young designers out there, that literally walk into organizations and ask for software they have just learnt. We have Enscape installed on the institutions machines, but in my experience, students gravitate to any software they can install on their laptop, learn quickly in their own time, to maximise their outputs.

    I don't understand.

    on Friday, for the first time, I introduced my students to Twinmotion.

    • Official Post

    Hi damo3 , thanks for your post.

    I can understand the frustration and even surprise seeing the applied prices now to individual students since they were free of charge before, but please keep in mind that we still offer additional alternatives (next to students acquiring a license each) for tutors/educational institutions generally.

    Further in case you haven't seen this thread before:

    Updated Educational Program FAQ

    Hopefully this will clear a few things up at least regarding your questions, and I've also forwarded your inquiry and feedback to our Educational department directly, so you'll be contacted back to discuss some fitting options for your class, financially speaking as well.

    Let me know just in case you wish to not be contacted, but we'd of course very much appreciate it if you may give us another chance.

  • Hi Demian Gutberlet

    Thanks for the response. Your team has got in contact with me and I have responded with some feedback. I do keep in mind the alternative education offering and we use them at our university, with all our labs having your software installed, but unfortunately, in my experience, those offerings miss the point. Many students prefer to bring their personal laptops into class. Students want software on their personal devices, this allows them to "tinker and render late into the night". They want hassle free.

    As I indicated in my email to the team, if the price is advertised as monthly, why can't you pay monthly?

    Putting aside Twinmotion access via Autodesk for a moment, Twinmotion & Lumion are both free of charge to students via student licences. So what would Enscape/Chaos team suggest, when trying to recommend Enscape to my students when they have to pay for it? That’s a genuine question, I am interested in what the Enscape team feel justifies the student cost? I imagine you have some market research that could shed some light.

    I am not a marketing person, so maybe I am simply naive.

    In the end, I teach the tools that are the most intuitive, capable, with the least number of barriers. This has always been Enscape. Unfortunately based on this latest decision, that means that for me as a teacher at a university, the equation has changed. For the foreseeable future, Twinmotion takes the top spot. I will continue to mention Enscape to my students, then they will jump onto your website and well… we know what happens then…

  • Hi Demian Gutberlet

    I as a student would like to add how much I agree with damo3.

    Mid Semester I have a big presentation coming up next week and only this morning did I find out that the trusty rendering software that I've been using for 3 Semesters is not available to me anymore??
    Now of course I dont have the time or capacity to learn a whole new software in 3 days even though I wish I could because I do not in any way want to support this decision. The only choice I have rn is to pay up and I do feel very fortunate that I am in a financial situation where I can pay up because I know a couple of my peers that are not.

    The other issue is that I graduate in 8 months so what is Enscape going to do me any good having had to pay for 12months in advance??

    I dont want to start swearing because I know that the people answering these threads aren't the ones behind cooperate decisions and there is no point letting it out on them. But I do have to say that to the lower Semesters that I'm tutoring or to the higher ones in my peer group there will be no point in passing the paywall you put up earlier this year.

    Younger students need to be able to try out different Softwares in order to find out what works best for them without a 12months payment attached to it. And not just for 14-days.
    That is something that takes you out of the competition/selection entirely which I find very sad.

    I also agree with that campus computer pools aren't a solution to any of that. Especially since ours only have Macs and are only accessible at certain hours during the day. We need smth accessible at 4am in the morning if necessary.

    So yes I will be paying the fee now because as already established I dont really have a choice rn.

    But for the students I teach, Enscape will be a footnote behind a paywall.

  • I am also complexed why students do not have a monthly payment option. I teach Revit during the summer at a community college and we use Enscape to create renderings and movie walkthroughs. We will use it for only 1 month. To ask a student to pay for an entire year does not seem fair.

    Please allow students to have the ability to pay monthly at the discounted rate.

  • I am also complexed why students do not have a monthly payment option. I teach Revit during the summer at a community college and we use Enscape to create renderings and movie walkthroughs. We will use it for only 1 month. To ask a student to pay for an entire year does not seem fair.

    Please allow students to have the ability to pay monthly at the discounted rate.

    Us pro users are not particularly happy with being basically forced into a yearly pricing "discount" either...Their monthly pricing is absurd.

    Luckily, competition exists in the way of D5 and Twinmotion- particularly for the Education licensing. The same rending principles and techniques applies for all these newer real-time engines.

  • Do you plan to stop your architectural work after you graduate?

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    Do you plan to stop your architectural work after you graduate?

    I assume the point you are making is that the answer to the above question would be 'no' and therefore you can keep using the licence?

    Hoping I am wrong in that assumption, but if not just FYI... it's a student licence. If you continue after you graduate you'll need to drop more $$$ to buy a commerical licence.

    Secondly, you aren't registered when you graduate, so likely you join a company who typically pay for the software, your student licence would also be redundant due to commercial work.

    Lastly, one of the main points is the website says monthly but you can only pay yearly. Fix that and it gets marginally better.

    Feel for the enscape crew, this is clearly coming from Chaos. I noticed VRAY website is playing the same tricks.

  • Hello. As a student from a poorer country in Europe, with moderate to low financial possibilities, I can confirm for me and my classmates that now, with the fee policy, we will no longer be able to use this software for our projects, even if we have used it in the past and are accustomed to its workflow. To begin with, we can barely afford to buy the hardware necessary for practicing architecture, and this payment represents a significant portion of our school fee. There is no chance that for students like me, adding to these financial struggles by choosing software that needs paying for, when there are free student alternatives for rendering such as lumion, d5 render, twinmotion, unreal engine, 3ds max, is an option. This change deeply saddened me, because Enscape is a very accesible, powerful and intuitive program, but life goes on and each company decides for itself. In the end, the thing that matters to me most is being able to pursue what i love, especially since the tools one uses do not define one's skills and creativity as an architect. Adaptation and an open mind lead to discovering new workflows and archieving great results. take care and do nice things.

  • We need a monthly option at the minimum to allow students to be able to afford Enscape, $12.42 per month.

    I teach at a community college and no one wanted to buy a yearly $149 license.

    Can the moderator please escalate this discussion to upper management to go monthly?

    Do we need to sign a petition in order for this policy to change?

  • Hi, this is a disappointing change. We have an Architectural Technology program, and had been including Enscape within the curriculum. Obviously, this lead to graduates who would then promote the software for industry use - seemed like a win-win approach. We may have to look at other options now - students cannot afford the yearly license on top of all of the other expenses for school.

    At the very least, please change it from an annual to monthly subscription for students. Students are not at school in the summer months typically - they should not have to pay for software they are not using.