2.7.0-preview.2+16182 - Linking Visual Settings to CAD Views

I have had a go at trying to use this new feature - Linking visual settings to CAD views.

It either doesn't work or I am missing a trick.

Here's what I did to test it:

I created a new SU model (SU Pro 2018), drew a box, and created 2 scenes from different angles.

I then unticked the auto exposure setting so that it's set at 50% and saved a visual setting preset to the project from scene 1.

I named that visual setting "Vis setting 1" and then went to manage views and clicked on the chain icon and assigned "Vis setting 1" to scene 1

I then switched to scene 2, made a couple of changes to the visual settings, in this case, changed horizon to "white cubes" and exposure to 14% then saved another visual setting preset to the project called "Vis setting 2". I then repeated the linking as above assigning Vis setting 2 to scene 2.

So at this point I tried toggling between the 2 scenes in SU assuming that the Vis settings would update in Enscape viewer.

Unfortunately they do not. When I switch back to scene 1 the setting I created for scene 2 is still active.

Also on top of all this, the preset button is incredibly glitchy and is only useable if I minimize (hide) the Enscape window

What, if anything, have I done wrong? Would you please explain how to use this functionality.

Or even better, create a basic demo video to show it.

Kaj

I have created a video of my desktop to demonstrate the problems.

I've uploaded it to Wetransfer (hope this is okay) see link

https://we.tl/t-wmaDx3qnNT

You'll see that when the Enscape viewer is showing I can not use the Visual setting presets or the Manage Views function for that matter. I have to minimise Enscape.

The main issue for me, Visual settings applied to scene, you'll see clearly does not work for me. The only difference between the 2 settings is the exposure change from 68% to 73%.

I've tried it on 3 different models now and I think I did it correctly.

Thoughts?

I can't put this to the test. as the batch rendering didn't work for me either.

I selected all CAD views (in this case 2 views) and the progress bar goes straight to 50% and stays there and after about 20 seconds the Enscape window closes and no renderings are produced.

Anyway, the settings don't update when I switch views which is fundamental to be able to use it properly.

Is it just me that is experiencing these issues? Does it actually work for you?

Is there is a technical reason why the linked settings only have effect when batch rendering?

I would really like to see my scene and it's visual settings update when I toggle between them. Seems like a basic function of linking a preset with a view to me, unless of course there is a major technical issue preventing this?

It's no different than setting the time of day/shadows for each view which updates in Enscape when switching scenes.

I mostly work on interiors and almost always need to tweak the exposure settings or artificial light strength from one view to the next. The reason being that I use different times of the day for different views to get the best looking render.

The lobby in the video for example has about 12 views and I found I needed 8 different visual settings to get the renders looking the way I want.

But as I mentioned in my previous post, batch rendering isn't working for me so none of this matters if I can't produce a render.

As far as the glitchy settings box, it is simply unusable. I use 2 screens, and frankly I'd be amazed if there's anyone using SU and Enscape with one screen.

I have to minimise Enscape even if it is on the other screen to use the settings!

I only put both windows on one screen to make the desktop video I posted.

Please leave it the way it was or make it a preference setting?

Sorry to keep banging on about this Kaj, but this is really baffling to me.

I find it hard to believe that anyone requested a feature to have visual setting pre-sets for batch renderings only.

Surely people who requested having vis settings linked to views did so to be able to view them on their screen?

You (Enscape that is) market your product as being a "real time rendering" solution.

If you don't include applying the linked settings to views in real time then it is no longer a "real time rendering" program. So again, unless there is some technical limitation, why wouldn't you include it?

Just to clarify my earlier post with regards to the glitchy presets and manage views buttons, they simply don't work for me if the Enscape window is visible anywhere on my desktop, irregardless of where the settings box is located.

Quote from Kaj Burival

It's the other way around - You can use the linked settings presets for batch renders only at this point.

We have included this feature in the current form so we could open it up to the public in Enscape 2.7, already. Any other additions would have delayed it beyond the release of the next Enscape version.

Whether the linked settings will be applied in real-time as well will be decided at a later point. This said, we're very grateful for all your feedback!

Kaj,

I have made a new desktop recording to show the glitch again. See WeTransfer link below.

https://we.tl/t-0I1vq4zVdH

You'll see that with both SU and Enscape visible I can open the Visual Settings (note the Visual Settings box is above the SU window) but when I click on "Presets" it pops up for a split second and disappears, I do it a number of times. I then minimise Enscape and click "Presets" again and I'm able to load a preset.

In the second half of the video I get the same behavior with the "Manage Views" button. I click and it pops up but when I mouse over to the right it disappears before I can click the chain icon. When I minimise Enscape though, I'm able to click on the Chain link icon and link the view to a preset.

As previously noted I've only put the two windows onto one screen to make this recording. I always have SU on one screen and Enscape on the other but I still get the same issues I've described above.

Now with regards to the first video, you are right! On occasion it does actually work with Enscape visible. I was able to recreate that again by switching between the SU scenes 2 or 3 times. You can see that was what I did at 2:10 in the first video. It's not a solution in my opinion as it doesn't work every time.

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