Request for a premium render toggle

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    After moving around in Enscape the scene takes a second or so to ‘settle’ and for everything to become sharp/clean again. When doing a video render this ‘settlement’ process is skipped. I emailed Enscape Support about this (after ghosting issues in my videos) and they explained that otherwise the rendering process would take too long.


    I propose to add an option for ‘premium rendering’ in which the ‘settlement’ process takes place for each frame. I understand that video rendering will take much longer but this is a price I am willing to pay for a better quality of the final render. It should be a toggle so people can choose when to use it.

  • annevanzwol

    Changed the title of the thread from “Request for premium render toggle” to “Request for a premium render toggle”.

    I'm puzzled by this post because the opposite seems to be true when rendering a camera path to individual png files at the 'lossless' setting. The final 'settlement' and tracing is always complete before each frame is saved. I'll never use the straight to video render solution, so not sure if this resolve/tracing step is shorter for video export? Have you tried png frames instead?

    Quote from landrvr1

    I'm puzzled by this post because the opposite seems to be true when rendering a camera path to individual png files at the 'lossless' setting. The final 'settlement' and tracing is always complete before each frame is saved. I'll never use the straight to video render solution, so not sure if this resolve/tracing step is shorter for video export? Have you tried png frames instead?


    Rendering to separate png's requires extra manual steps to convert the png's to MP4.


    I rather spend my time on others things.


    The toggle only needs to build in a delay before each frame. Seems like something which could easily be implemented.



    Hmm. I just rendered a sequence to png and the same scene to mp4 (at the Max) setting. I'm seeing a bit of difference in the glass reflections and color grading, but not really any fidelity loss in terms of true GI/reflection/refraction/etc etc. There is an overall degradation of the image from the mp4 compression - even at the Max setting.

    Here's a quick screen shot: left side is the png, right is the mp4.

    Can you post any examples of what you're seeing? I'd love to understand better.

    Please see the examples in this post: Ghosting issue when rendering video


    This behavior has been confirmed by Enscape Support and is caused by not allowing the scene to ‘settle’ before each frame is saved (as is the case with single images). The reasoning is that video rendering would take too long. For the final video render I would like to have the option to get maximum quality even if this takes longer. Like 1 second per frame longer.

    You can also see it very clearly with the details on the engine of the motor model from the Enscape library. In a still render everything is sharp. In a video it becomes very blurry. Motion blur is at 0 so that is not the problem.

    Thanks for that link, I see exactly what you are talking about in your examples, and your proposed solution could very well solve the problem.

    I did a quick test with a 5sec sequence at 30fps.

    Lossless png frames

    5sec @ 30fps = 150 frames

    1:19 total render time

    1.89 sec per frame

    mp4 Max Quality
    5sec @ 30fps = 150 frames

    :16 total rendertime

    0.1 sec per frame

    That's an astounding difference in render time per frame! In fact, it's so different that frankly I'm shocked there's not a bigger difference in fidelity from lossless png to mp4 max quality! I have yet to see ghosting in my tests, but that doesn't mean anything. The ghosting could be the result of the Enscape version vs the individual particulars of the scenes involved (polygon count, lighting rig techniques, bitmap texture sizes, etc etc.

    I know you said you wanted to avoid creating png files because it's an extra step, but have you at least tested the output quality for your scene? Everyone is different, but even for test films I would never use the onboard Enscape mp4 generator. I can take png frames and, in about less than 30 seconds, dump those into Premiere and get a working draft for review purposes. Something to consider....

    Thanks for testing. As a last resort this is a good option.


    Nevertheless a checkmark to slow down the video rendering process to generate an MP4 directly still has my preference.


    Not only to skip the extra step with using separate software but also to keep my drive clean. The png option means subdirectories for each scene filled with hundreds of png's.