Posts by BillyCoopDraws

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    What Phil said, +, I know this is not always a fair question, but is your hardware the best your can afford, and or TOTL? Also, I do not model 12 story structures, but I do model very heavy models (15k s.f. highly detailed custom content rez with fully developed topographical sites in model (5 acre), and all elevational hardscape/landscape attached), and even when mine are drunk with a couple of hundred plants/trees, all on/rendering , my load times are never more than a minute or so. I have to believe part of that is now that I'm playing in the textured real-time 3d environ, I did decide to go nuts on the hardware, and it has made such a huge difference.

    Also, I always have HWinfo hardware monitor running, and always watch my GPU temps (especially if you are not running a full spec video card), because these real time programs can really do run up the temps, esp on your GPU, and if that is happening (without knowing it, because not everyone monitors their temps), you will get GPU frame rate reductions and GPU throttling, which will slow your render times (real time/start-up) to a crawl, as your GPU tries to cool itself down so it does not self immolate). This goes for all real time renderers, like Enscape, e.g., Lumion, D5, Twin Motion. Thankfully, out of the bunch, Enscape runs the coolest, and without exception, on anything but the best GPU's, every other real time renderer ran my temps to scary high levels. Which brings up another possible bug to chase: your frame rate in those other programs can be reduced (through settings) which will cool down the temps, and speed up performance, but I don't know a path to reduce frame rates with revit and enscape (that's a question for the Gurus) .

    Back to HWinfo, I would install it, it's free, open your model, and have the monitor running for your GPU and CPU temps in the tray. Monitor those while you are loading, and if your GPU runs into the high 80's or low 90's (and your CPU as well), you could be throttling (on both devices), which could be a big issue, or at least compounding your core problems.

    Therefore, if you begin to realize you could need to upgrade, or at least consider the path, I did try Nvidia's lower end professional graphics cards (RTX A4000), which they claim are the finest cards in their class, and they are good, but in real time rendering, that poor thing would temp spike into the 90's, with every renderer I tried, except Enscape, very quickly. So I decided to bite the bullet, and get the best card I could afford, and because I cannot afford an RTX A6000, I went to an RTX 4090 with an on-board AIO waterblock cooler, and I am SOOOOOO happy I went the gaming card route with the watercooler (Aorus Waterforce 4090, and I understand the Waterforce 3090 is also a great option, and both mean you should also install a 1k power source). Since I installed all of that, my machine is smoking fast, and running very, very cool, even under the most demanding loads, regardless of the renderer.

    So again, what Phil said, (Phil, I know you're a rock star, I've been in the Rev/SU ecosystem since 2001-2, so I've watched\admired/respect your roll), but on the flip side of his sage advice, lays the hardware. You can't go 200 miles an hour in a family car, or even a Mustang, for that, you need a Ferrari, or at least a 911 Porsche.

    So, for me at least, <<<<YMMV>>> a great GPU, a great CPU, (Intel CPU's are now comparatively dirt cheap at the top end), a good motherboard, and in my humble, DDR5 ram and the most you can pack on board, and you'll have the hardware side covered. I also forgot to mention your CPU cooler, I used to run water, full blown, but the intels have gotten so much cooler now, the Noctua coolers work fabulously, so that too. So if your fans are spinning at full blast when you are starting up Enscape (or anything else for that matter, and I'm not talking about the initial 5-8 second fan bump most programs illicit), you could really be maxing out temps, so the best hardware, and GPU on water, great CPU cooling, and that should get you as good as you can be on the hardware side. And the plus is overall fantastic performance improvements in every other area, including Revit's overall performance.

    Best of luck, and skill.


    Doug Johnston , we do not officially support Revit 2024 yet I'm afraid but it's certainly on our radar of course - Once I have any further news to share soon I'll do so right away.

    Hi Demian,

    I don't mean to be pushy, but because I would love to understand when I may plan to transition my workflow from R23 to R24, along with Enscape, do you have any idea at all when we might expect to understand when any news might be coming down the pipe? I have very specific reasons for wanting to upgrade immediately (Revit's new site tools ), so the sooner the better, as I am deeply integrated with Enscape & Vray, so all of that is very important to me.

    Thanks a million.