Posts by stphn74

I also have lost the lock horizon function. Additionally it makes no difference whether I have it set to camera or object mode etc... All functions act as object mode instead of camera which means you cannot turn around on the spot, These two issues make it even more unusable than it has become since the major change with loss of walking collision mode. It's just not usable at all.

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I still can't turn using the camera as the pivot point. Makes it hard to move around interior corridors.

I'm having this exact problem. No matter what setting the driver is in it reacts like it is in object mode instead of camera mode. This is on my laptop with the latest driver. On my desktop it works fine with the same driver.

Thanks Will, I'm on Revit 2023 wih Enscape 3.4.1 and 10.8.8 spacemouse driver. Settting to camera mode makes no differnece, it still works as if in object mode which makes it almost impossible to turn around within a room. I've tried reinstalling the driver and still no difference. This just starting happening in the last week.

The loss of walk mode is not the only issue. This new automatic variable speed thing means you end up moving too slowly when you need to move quickly and vice versa. It's too unpredictable in it's behaviour. I'm constantly having to apologise for not being able to smoothly navigate through a model in a presentation.

My camera mode has jumped to function as if in object mode when it is set to camera mode and nothing I can do will get it to change. I'm sure it's fixable but I'm fed up having to spend time getting this thing to continue working at a lesser level than what it was previously straight out of the box before they changed the system. I don't see how anyone who was using a spacemouse before the change would say that it's now better than it was. Navigation was effortless and now at times I feel like I need the dixterity of a surgeon just to professionally move through a model during a presentation.

Something has changed and now my spacemouse is even less usable than before. I give up. Think it's time to change programs as enscape are not listening to their users. Twinmotion now supports the spacemouse and it works great.

Yes, but my point is who is gaining by this change? Was it a request by the user base? I don't see how anybody who actually uses a 3D mouse with Enscape on a daily basis would be happy with this.

The walk mode is essential for proper use of a 3D mouse in Enscape. All this new functionality gained by the change that has been made is not worth the loss of this function. All I personally have done with all the new options is to set them so the 3D mouse functions exactly the same as it did in the previous version. Was this change a request by users? Is there a greater vision I am not aware of?

I managed to get mine to stop rolling and function as I'm used to by experimenting with all the settings. I have since re-installed the previous version though, as the walk mode is essential to my presentations. I really hope they fix this!

I don't think this is a good move. It's going backwards in usability. 3D mouse in walk mode is the best and the most professional looking way to move through a building. Being able to have full adjustment over all the other settings is not worth the loss of this function.

That's a real shame. Being able to glide through the interior of a house, up and down stairs, with the 3D mouse was night and day over using the mouse and keyboard. It gave presentations a real professional touch. This is a big back step. Can I ask what the reason was to change? This worked perfectly before. There was no need to change any settings apart from toggling the invert box to match up to your preference.

Thanks Clemens,

I've installed the latest driver and see the functions you are referring to. After some experimentation, I've gotten it to work for all the issues bar one; It's still impossible to stay in walk mode; it disengages as soon as you rotate or try to move.

And turning is like using the right mouse button when it used to be like using the left button, as in instead of turning on the spot it is rotating you around a central spot. I have re-installed 3.1.2 and all is back to normal.

It also doesn't stay upright. You can now roll over and end up upside down which makes it incredibly hard to control. The walk mode also disengages as soon as you move try to move with the space mouse. This all worked perfectly in all the previous versions.

Hi, I've just installed the new version and it looks like the Invert space mouse tick box has been removed. Why??? This is now unusable for me as everything is in reverse to how it intuitively works. Please fix!

That's a good question. If I was offered a refund due to incompatibility from 3Dconnexion, I'd hesitate to take it, as even though these issues are a pain, the experience of using a spacemouse with Enscape is so far superior to navigating with standard mouse and keyboard that it would be hard to go back. Presentations with the spacemouse are so smooth and professional compared to what is possible without. There's no comparison. As soon as I saw one used with Enscape I went out and bought one. I can get by with not using it in revit but I also have their Cadmouse which is on the same driver, and I can't get by with that one not working properly, which is what's brought me here.

Add Revit to the equation. I posted in the Revit forum and was guided to this thread. My issue is slightly different, as whether I have Enscape open or not, my spacemouse will drop out randomly in Revit, anywhere from a few minutes to an hour into a session, usually when I'm on my second monitor on the web or in another program. Having Enscape open and switching between wasn't making it drop out, it was totally random and would even drop out if I just left the computer sitting for 10 minutes or so, which is why I hadn't considered it was an issue between Enscape and 3Dconnexion. When it drops out in Revit it also drops out in Enscape but then if I close Enscape and re open it the spacemouse will work in Enscape but not in Revit which is how I've been using it. If I close down Revit and then re open it will work in both Revit and Enscape for an unpredictable length of time until it drops out, which it always does.

I've been through a lengthy period with 3Dconnexion trying to find a solution with no luck and hadn't even thought that it could be the interaction with Enscape that was causing the problem, but here I am 6 hours into a Revit work session after uninstalling Enscape completely from my computer, and Revit and my two 3Dconnexion devices are working flawlessly.

I really thought this was an issue with Revit or 3Dconnexion but after reading your reply I uninstalled Enscape and have been using Revit for the last 6 hours with no drop outs. This is such a shame as Enscape is where the spacemouse is the most benefit and it's the main reason I purchased it. Once used to it there's no going back to keyboard navigation in Enscape. It's so clunky in comparison.

Hi, a couple of months ago I purchased a Spacemouse wireless to use with Enscape and it works great in Enscape but keeps dropping out in Revit. When it drops out in Revit it also drops out in Enscape but then I just close and reopen Enscape and it's all good from there but no longer works in Revit. Closing revit resets it but then it just drops out again from anywhere to a few minutes to an hour or so. If i just leave Revit in a dropped out state and restart Enscape it will not drop out at all in Enscape. I also got a Cadmouse at the same time and it loses all addtional functions above standard mouse function when the spacemouse drops out. I've tested this on two computers and have even gone to the extent of reinstalling windows on one of them to try and fix this. 3Dconnexion have been no help and no one on the Autodesk Revit forum appears to use a spacemouse. So if you use one, can you let me know what version of Revit you are using, and what version of the 3Dconnnexion driver you have installed. Mine is Revit 2020 and the driver is the latest one - 10.6.9.

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Thanks for the tip DeKoetsier, I can see how that could work, I'll give it a try!